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September 19, 2006 -- 7:52 AM
posted by Al
True, respect. I think that what people are lacking. They say they hate there job but it is all a matter of respect. Does your employer respect you and do you respect your employer. I mean the pay was pretty fair, throw in benefits and I think it was pretty competitve with what everyone else was offering. I mean you deserve a fair wage but on the other hand your employer can't offer you all the money in the world. It is definitly a balance of what can I offer you and what can you offer me. I guess it's hard seeing people go like that, it makes you feel weird for staying. Arrrrrr..... Arrrr.....
September 19, 2006 -- 7:11 AM
posted by eric
i would say loyalty falls into the category of respect, which is a two-way street.
i can't speak for all the employees that have left your company, but if they feel they're not getting the respect (money) they deserve then it wouldn't necessarily be wrong for their leaving
September 18, 2006 -- 8:22 PM
posted by Al
Yep I'm this bored. Should be working on my mmft entry...
September 18, 2006 -- 8:22 PM
posted by Al
Hmm... still pondering this company loyalty thing. I guess in the chinese tradition company loyalty is a show of your personal loyalty. I mean what is loyalty? A manifestation of how we will treat people and our morals behind our action. If you work and aren't loyal to your employer then when you interact with other people what makes you so sure you'll be loyal to your friends? It's is just how I interact with my boss will be the same way I'll interact with my friends. If you always act in the same manner with everything you do in life then you'll have personal integrity. Well this is me personally, I don't know about other people.
September 18, 2006 -- 6:23 PM
posted by Al
I don't know beck, my company doesn't work like that. Maybe it is the corporate culture and the people running the company that affect corporate loyalty. For my company it is run like a family almost. People actually care that you are paid fairly and have a good working environment. If you worked at my company for 40 years you would be a engineering manager and be making good money. It's just that I deal with people not companies. Or so that's what I believe. So far the people running the company and my immediate boss and the president of the company treat me very well. The only reason you would get fired is if you really mess up and I mean really mess up. I personally can't see why people working for my company don't want to stay. I guess that is my weakness isn't it, I'm too kind hearted and caring. That's why I'll never come out on top, funny really you have to become a emotionless drone to come out on top. But really you don't want to be seen as one.
September 18, 2006 -- 5:05 PM
posted by alison
really horrible (but totally funny) bananaphone flash movie
September 18, 2006 -- 4:59 PM
posted by Al
Meh just a personal pet peeve thing I have. I just believe you should have pride in whatever job you are doing. Just do it to the best of your abilities and just be happy you have a job. Mainly don't keep on asking for money when you don't deserve it. This company did pay for my car and other stuff. This world sadly revolves around money. Will see what happens next.
September 18, 2006 -- 4:56 PM
posted by Beck
Company Loyalty. What's the incentive to have company loyalty when the people who don't have company loyalty come out ahead? Sure company loyalty was important in past generations, but nowadays it just holds you back from other opportunities. Quite often you'll see the guy who's been working at some place for 40 years making only a small amount more than the kid who just started. This is because the raises didn't stay ahead of the inflation/starting wages. Company loyalty is now exploited, so why bother?
September 18, 2006 -- 4:25 PM
posted by alison
not in this job market, Albert... just about anyone can get whatever they want... sure it's more difficult in non-directly-related-to-the-oilmutherfucker-industries but it's still happening... your former coworker will not be out of work for long.
besides, what's the company doing for you anyway? is it a worthwhile endeavour to have company loyalty?
September 18, 2006 -- 12:37 PM
posted by Al
Bagebus we just lost another guy today! Actually we lost him a couple weeks ago but it wasn't well publicized that he was let go. Money issues basically. Man all these young guys are asking for a lot! Doesn't anyone have company loyalty anymore?
