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September 30, 2013 -- 2:09 AM
posted by alison

hello! Look what I found today, it's a Doctor Who thingy.


Also this:

November 23rd! John Hurt!!!

September 28, 2013 -- 7:45 PM
posted by alison

Hey friends, Eddie Izzard is touring Canada! ... and he's potentially running for mayor of London. So if you're at all into his kind of comedy, I recommend checking it out. He's on the left coast at the end of November, and is in Edmonton on the 22nd (of November).


"We can all do more than we think we can do." is a pretty good life slogan, mayor or not.

September 25, 2013 -- 10:38 PM
posted by Al

Hahaha!!

Good video guys!

Maybe as an inside joke when I get married after the first dance the first song to be played is "the Fox" song. Only people who read this board would be in on it.

September 25, 2013 -- 1:51 PM
posted by Par

I don't know, Beck, I think this one's better:

September 24, 2013 -- 1:31 PM
posted by Beck

My turn to post crazy music!

September 24, 2013 -- 12:49 PM
posted by alison

Interesting... There's been a lot of commentary about Asian stereotypes in television lately, actually. ... like this article from Salon.

And there's furor over Seth MacFarlane's newest show that's not even out yet: Dads, because of the shitty stereotypes they're playing into.

While I agree that Apu's Indianness was a (now very dated and unacceptable) cartoon caricature of a recent immigrant, I agree with Matt that at least he had story arcs and explored important issues as a fully realized character on the Simpsons. I think I learned more about Apu's life than I did Lenny or Karl, for instance; and Barney, too, for that matter. He was sympathetic and engaging as a character to watch, and not because he was a foreign stereotype. ... even if some of his lifestyle stuff was particularly stereotyped (like the vegetarian diet, the shrines, the working in a convenience store thing, etc.). [edit: I gave it a bit more thought: I think Apu ended up having more serious "this is a real guy, not just a tragic one-liner/typecast punchline (e.g. Barney)" character development stories over the years than a lot of the other supporting characters on the show, like Lenny and Karl, or Moe or Principal Skinner. But maybe there's a hierarchy of character development at play here too that looks something like The Simpsons family proper, Flanders, Apu, Patty & Selma, everybodyelse... Or maybe I just liked Apu more than some of the other characters and therefore remember his stories better than others. Who knows.]

Raj on the Making-Fun-Of-Nerds show, however, is the ultimate stereotypical punchline, within a show where everyone is used as a punchline. ... But at least Leonard and Sheldon are given non-culturally-exclusive reasons for their weirdness. Meanwhile Howard and Raj fall into the territory of stereotypically ethnic weirdness, with Raj being trapped in the bottom of a really deep pit of racially-motivated differentiation, and few redeeming qualities or opportunities within his character's story arc. Howard, I think gets this "oh, he's Jewish" brush-off, but then he's allowed back into the fold of white nerdity without any further problems.

Contrasting I seriously forgot the name... Big Bang Theory with, say, The Guild makes it even more obvious. In The Guild, everyone's a shut-in and everyone's weird; the Indian guy has some additional cultural challenges (aka his mom), but he's so much more than just that one piece of his character. Raj on Big Bang, however, is not. Raj's sister, as an occasional visitor/lover of Leonard's seems less tied-down to the ethnic-punchline role her brother has been condemned to play on the show.

September 22, 2013 -- 3:08 PM
posted by Al

If it is murder of crows then what is it for harpies?

September 22, 2013 -- 12:32 PM
posted by MattL

Very interesting. I'd never really thought about it before, but I think I have a bigger problem with Peter Sellers' The Party, and the guy from the Big Bang Theory, because more often than not, the punchlines are their "Indian-ness". Apu is a broad stereotype, but I feel that the jokes are less based on those stereotypes, so I've never felt that uncomfortable with the character. He's still his own person and his own character.

But there's no doubt Apu has helped ingrain that stereotype for at least one, maybe two generations of people, which is kind of sad. But I still feel the guy on the Big Bang Theory is more egregious, because it's not a 25 year old show.

September 20, 2013 -- 11:32 PM
posted by Par

Two of my favourite comedians comment on Apu, and how it may be past time to revisit the character:

"He's an example of a character who would never have been written if the show started today," says comedian Hari Kondabolu.


It's interesting to me that Apu's literally a cartoon of a person (as Hari Kondabolu puts it, "a white guy doing an impression of a white guy making fun of my father") yet there's an unsettling quality to him. I'm conflicted, as Apu's a moderate-sized part of a piece of culture that's formative for me and it's not as though the Simpsons (the real show, up to season 7 and bits of season 8) pulled punches: they made fun of everyone and everything. Still, there's this concept of satirizing upwards -- making fun of the powerful rather than the powerless -- and mocking immigrants for their accents seems to run counter to that.

Even an episode like Much Apu About Nothing speaks so much to the immigrant experience yet does so through a racist caricature. I wonder how an episode like that might exist today, where we wouldn't accept a character like Apu so easily.

(Then again, there's a similar stereotype on one of the most popular shows on television, so what do I know?)

September 14, 2013 -- 1:44 AM
posted by Par

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