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March 09, 2013 -- 6:25 PM
posted by MattL

Man, AD, all those wild and titillating rumours are EXACTLY what you find on the internet. That's what the internet's FOR. Also, I learned a long long time ago that you never trust a story that starts with "a friend of a friend". Tossing that aside, what's more likely, Pronger's wife doesn't want to live in Edmonton because she's the daughter of a billionaire, or because her husband cheated on her. One of them is based on a knowable fact, and a highly likely correlation to that fact. The other one, if it's true, (and there is no actual evidence that I've seen to prove that it is true), is a reason to leave your spouse maybe, but not to move to a bigger city, how's that supposed to help with infidelity?

You, my friend, have been sucked in to a sub-genre of professional sports called "made up soap operas written by losers with literally nothing better to do in their lives than daydream about their favourite athletes' sex lives, and physical fitness levels." And I'll even go one step further, if any or all of that WAS true (which I bet it's not) who give one iota of a crap? It's a teen gossip magazine, but instead of being about Justin Bieber or that new boy band, it's about hockey players.

I agree with Paras, from 4th line cup of coffee grinders , to first line snipers from Russia who have a reputation for laziness, there's nothing lazy about working the hours it takes to become so proficient at hockey that people will pay you millions of dollars to do it. They've all worked harder than 99% of the hockey-playing population. That's very hard.

But I do agree with the convoluted message of AD's post, it would be nice if it at least LOOKED like they gave a crap out there. It's like you paid $100 to see a 2 and a half hour Bruce Springsteen show, and then the Monkees come out instead, in their 60's, tired of life, sick of having to Monkee around as their sole source of income, nagging divorces to pay for, coming off some sort of prescription drug addiction, don't even know what day it is or what city they're in... That's the Oilers right now.

"Kill me, kill me, kill me, please don't make me sing this stupid- ......Cheer up, sleepy Jean..."

March 08, 2013 -- 1:11 PM
posted by Par

I guess we're just going to have to disagree on this one, AD.

March 07, 2013 -- 7:18 PM
posted by AD

The argument Par is that we've got a player who despite zero talent has worked his ass off to be a fourth line player in the NHL. Trust me when I say that people floating by on ability could learn a lot from that. I don't buy that all hockey players truly have that drive. Especially young players. If they're going to realize their potential a player like brown can help them get there. I think it's obvious that the Oilers are missing some kind of leadership and it would appear that Brown is an attempt to fill a part of that void. If he can't, then we've traded a fourth rounder for an Eager who scores less but bleeds way fewer chances. A minor upgrade at best.

As for Giblert, I don't think we'll find this on the internet anywhere "official". This is knowledge I've obtained from talking with someone who knows someone who has the inside information. It's the same way I know that Pronger left town over the affair and I know that Comrie slept with Salo's wife and Smyth taught him a painful lesson. That incident was just before Salo suddenly sucked hardcore and Comrie refused to sign in Edmonton. You won't find those on the internet anywhere either. I find it endlessly amusing how much time is spent debating this hockey club when I know we're all missing huge pieces of the puzzle.

March 07, 2013 -- 1:46 PM
posted by Al

After walking away from that motorcycle accident I also second the notion about letting people know how I really feel before it is too late.

My condolences to Alan's family and friends.

March 06, 2013 -- 8:30 PM
posted by Par

I've been thinking about this a while and I just can't see the argument. Let's set aside the fact that Steve Tambellini speaks almost exclusively in nonsense words and gibberish ("poise", "compete level", etc.) Let's further set aside the fact that we're talking about professional hockey players; a group of people selected in no small part because of work ethic and dedication to a craft.

I still don't see how this deal accomplishes what you suggest it would. If we're concerned about the team's ability as a group to win faceoffs, obviously bringing in a faceoff expert as a player (or, if necessary, a coach) makes sense. If we're concerned about how much they're working out in the offseason, why waste a draft pick and a roster spot on a below average hockey player, when you could spend all sorts of Rexall dollars on professional trainers and save the other stuff for, you know, people who are good at playing hockey.

(As an aside, when did Gilbert show up to camp horribly out of shape? I know Peckham did, and we all know about Penner's history, but this is news to me. Do you have a link?)

March 05, 2013 -- 10:21 PM
posted by AD

I understand your rant about the whole perceived need for truculence on the Oilers Par, I really do get it. Watching other teams run roughshod over us it's easy to think that a few larger players could make a world of difference. The fact that Brown is that kind of player does suggest that the Oilers agree with this assessment.

If you read (or heard) Gregor's interview with Tambellini yesterday however I have a different take on the trade. Tambellini repeated referred to how Brown brings a high level of emotion (read, competitiveness or a will to win) and what amounts to an incredible work ethic (perceived anyway). I believe that the point of the Brown trade was not to add a roster player, because I agree with the below assessment, a fourth round for him isn't great asset management, but rather, the point was to add a player who's off-ice actions add an element that was felt missing from the team. Yes, I am arguing that Brown bring the so called intangibles to the table.

We've seen the Oilers do this before too. The Gilbert for Schultz trade is the best example. Gilbert, while a good player, showed up to camp desperately out of shape and took a month to get to where he should be physically. Management had previously warned him of a need to improve on this. I think he as a player has a much higher potential than he'll ever reach and it was work ethic that forced the trade (see Penner, Dustin). In return the Oilers brought in a player who while not quite as good, brought the similar intangibles we heard so much about. How much of Justin Schultz' success is due to the presence and mentorship of Nic? I'd argue a lot. In a few years after Nic moves on, we'll still be reaping the rewards on a much improved Justin. We saw this once with the effect Adam Oates had on Stoll and Horcoff and Brodziak.

If Brown truly does bring this ethic and knowledge, in a few years after he's gone and the fourth round pick (not third round pick, sorry folks) may or may not have turned into more, all of our players will have an extra edge because of what they learned from Brown today. Having him now makes our team better in the future. I don't know about you, but I'd give up a bit now for a better chance of success in the future during our prime years.

Truculence be damned.

March 05, 2013 -- 4:46 PM
posted by Par

Sharp turn back to the trivial now -- specifically the Oilers and their recent trade. I'm of two minds on this: i) this is a stupid trade, and ii) maybe this means one step closer to the end of the Tambellini era in Edmonton. Re: how stupid this trade is, Tyler Dellow says it best:

Giving away a pick for the sort of player who is available for nothing but money in the off-season because you screwed up your assessment of your team is aggravating as a fan of that team. It’s all the more aggravating when the deficiency that’s being corrected (a lack of toughness) is one that’s debatable at best, both in terms of its existence and in term of it mattering. This will be particularly true if, five years from now, Brown is gone and the Leafs have some contributor in the lineup who the Oilers could make use of.

I'm still of the feeling that when the Oilers' luck turns around and if they're able to get healthy again (are we missing Horcoff yet?), they'd be able to fight for a playoff spot. Trades like this and the talk that they need more unskilled muscle in the lineup in order to win discourage me from that hope.

March 05, 2013 -- 4:41 PM
posted by Par

Thanks to everyone for the kind words (here and elsewhere) regarding our friend, Alan. It's a stark reminder of how important it is to live in the present, and to appreciate the people in your lives.

In that vein, if it hasn't been apparent from me, I want to thank all of you for being such an important part of my life. I hope I'm better able to express that in the future than I have in the past.

March 03, 2013 -- 5:09 PM
posted by Beck

That is terribly sad, Par.

March 02, 2013 -- 7:29 PM
posted by Par

On a sad note, one of Nadeesha's good friends for many years -- a recent PhD graduate, husband, father of a three-year-old boy and a two-year-old girl, and a model of a kind, decent, wonderful human being if ever there was one -- tragically passed away in a car accident last week. Obviously it's hit his family tremendously hard, and it's a shocking reminder of how precious life is.

I only met him a few times and regret that I could not have gotten to know him better. As may be familiar to all of you, he was a down-to-earth, passionate, nerdy type of person that was easy-going and unpretentious. I've no doubt that he would have gotten along famously with all of you.

On behalf of his family, in this difficult time, I'd ask that you consider donating to his children's trust fund. I know you all don't know him, but it would mean much to us.

http://www.alandesilva.org/

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